Toby Hickman came out to Rocky Mountain Smiths in 2008 and demoed at a local shop that had a 5b hammer. He shared some industrial techniques under the hammer. both the size of the material and what he could do under that 5b were unreal. I won two of the items in the silent auction that evening. When he handed me the chuck he had upset, that I now use to hold my pencils, it was still warm from that day of forging it. Mr. Hickman passed away yesterday. I did not know him personally but I am glad I was able to meet him and have something that he forged with the experience of watching it being done.